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ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Speaking of LW+C remakes, I asked Asano if he would wanna do one, and he said he'd be ok with the idea.

2010-12-06 13:23:05 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@Tomomachi Darren allegedly cites PB on the Requiem commentary, but hasn't since then. And he allegedly only paid 60 grand to remake it.

2010-12-06 13:43:22 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

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ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi I hope Toho asked a helluva lot more for The Ring.

2010-12-06 13:43:46 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi The one thing I don't know is if Kon actually got a cut out of the deal, or this was done through a middle-man.

2010-12-06 13:44:43 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

Aronofsky paid $60000 for Perfect Blue? So, he can use it in Black Swan?  RT @ZERUDAH: Darren allegedly only paid 60 grand to remake it.

2010-12-06 14:07:42 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

Q: Perfect Blue an inspiration for this film? A: There are similarities between the films, but it wasn’t. RT @ZERUDAH: http://bit.ly/gZTHBC

2010-12-06 14:13:27 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

Oh, he is such a liar! That's obvious! RT @ZERUDAH: http://bit.ly/gZTHBC

2010-12-06 14:16:08 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi I called him a liar, too, and @rolandkelts agreed. But the Darren-philes are much like the Nolan-philes and Tarantino-philes in

2010-12-06 14:18:35 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi that they're covering for their favorite directors and either saying their films are nothing like the source material, or that

2010-12-06 14:19:02 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi "everyone" steals, or that, in Kon's case, it's legal, so it's ok.

2010-12-06 14:19:30 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

Christpher Norlan said he's never seen Papurika before? I don't believe him. RT @ZERUDAH: http://bit.ly/hpEcaI http://bit.ly/htmLxc

2010-12-06 14:19:46 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi 'Course, when Kon was still alive, I posted on his board that H'wood likes to steal legally just as much as illegally in that it

2010-12-06 14:20:10 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi takes credit for other people's material, even when it announces it as a remake.

2010-12-06 14:20:31 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

Year right. He paid just $60000. What a bargain! RT @ZERUDAH: @TomoMachi "everyone" steals, or that, in Kon's case, it's legal, so it's ok.

2010-12-06 14:21:48 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi He didn't say anything official about Paprika, only indirectly. http://tinyurl.com/3ysq6hy

2010-12-06 14:22:04 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi I'm hoping he'll have some integrity and mention Paprika on the DVD/BD.

2010-12-06 14:22:22 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi His toadie Leo did name-drop Miyazaki and Kurosawa while saying Inception is as "original" as those films and thus the Japanese

2010-12-06 14:23:31 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi would be receptive to it.

2010-12-06 14:23:40 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Ken Watanabe also brought up the original meme, and Kon talked about meeting him, too.

2010-12-06 14:24:33 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Seriously, I been coverin' this shit for a while now. http://konstone.s-kon.net/mo...

2010-12-06 14:25:15 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi I even talked to a dude who was representin' Madhouse and Toho for Redline, and he never even heard of PB. He did know about

2010-12-06 14:26:44 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi If you know Natalie or her reps, please ask either of 'em to mention Kon in her acceptance speech if she wins.

2010-12-06 14:28:16 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

One thing I like Tarantino is that he is always honest about influence he got from other directors. RT @ZERUDAH:

2010-12-06 14:28:53 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi If Marty had the decency to mention Lau, then it's only fair for Nolan and/or Darren to do the same for Kon.

2010-12-06 14:30:38 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Also, I been tryin' to get the Annie Awards to give him something honorary, since they dicked him out of it when he was alive,

2010-12-06 14:32:41 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi even though it was really the American studios which under-promoted his work here during awards season.

2010-12-06 14:33:13 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

Honestly, I love Black Swan. So, I'm disappointed that Darren forgets RESPECT. RT @ZERUDAH:

2010-12-06 14:33:26 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Dream Machine's his last shot at even a Best Animated Film Oscar nomination.

2010-12-06 14:33:59 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

Anyway, Thank you so much for lots of information. Keep in touch. RT @ZERUDAH:

2010-12-06 14:35:45 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Or this mod on ANN is saying that PB and Swan are both inspired by Dostoevsky's Double, so it's ok. But the Wikipedia summary for

2010-12-06 14:35:58 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi The Double doesn't have an aspiring dancer and a stage-mom. =p

2010-12-06 14:36:16 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Actually, Tarantino is dishonest about one of his films at least. http://www.youtube.com/watch...

2010-12-06 14:38:01 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Here's a few Kon blog entries which slipped under the radar. http://konstone.s-kon.net/mo...

2010-12-06 14:40:44 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

You mean Doppelgenger? That Dostoevsky novel actually inspires Fight Club and KIyoshi Kurosawa's same title. Not Black Swan! RT @ZERUDAH:

2010-12-06 14:41:20 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Well, Darren's citing that book and Swan Lake, but not PB. BTW, this was just for fun http://www.youtube.com/watch...

2010-12-06 14:42:53 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi He'll say everything but PB or Kon when he's asked about his "influences".

2010-12-06 14:43:22 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

By the way, how are you sure Aronofsky bought the rights of Perfect Blue for $60000? RT @ZERUDAH:

2010-12-06 14:44:38 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi And while Paprika and Kon have not been brought up to Nolan, he tried to pretend he doesn't have time to watch movies like

2010-12-06 14:44:46 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Marienbad, even though he had a huge DVD collection in his room. http://tinyurl.com/2cx523r

2010-12-06 14:46:45 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi I'm not sure. That's what the going number is, and has not been confirmed, other than by that blog entry.

2010-12-06 14:47:16 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Where Kon talks to Aronofsky.

2010-12-06 14:47:36 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

Where can i read the conv? In which he mentions about the price? RT @ZERUDAH: @TomoMachi Where Kon talks to Aronofsky.

2010-12-06 14:50:01 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi The point of the Marienbad thing, though, is it gave him an excuse to continue to call Inception "original".

2010-12-06 14:50:25 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Hell, that article where they cite Paprika as an influence for Inception hasn't been verified, either.

2010-12-06 14:51:09 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi But Nolan and Darren haven't shot down those stories, so they're true for now.

2010-12-06 14:52:35 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi http://konstone.s-kon.net/mo... If the price isn't there, then that's all we know for now, I guess.

2010-12-06 14:54:25 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Wikipedia's as reliable as it gets on that matter, and even they're asking for proof.

2010-12-06 14:54:55 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi BTW, not common knowledge, but PB was also used in a video for Madonna's Drowned World concert tour.

2010-12-06 14:56:29 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

Thanks but the price is budget of PIE, not price for Perfect Blue. However, their conversation (cont.) RT @ZERUDAH: http://bit.ly/9pfHJj

2010-12-06 15:01:04 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@tomomachi Yeah, that's why I had to send you the other link. ^^; 'Cus that's the only place I could find it.

2010-12-06 15:01:59 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Like I said, though, even then, it's unreliable. ;-;

2010-12-06 15:03:11 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

Thanks! This is IT! Aronofsky purchased Perfect Blue for $59000! So, he can use it for Black Swan! RT @ZERUDAH: http://imdb.to/guUQjK

2010-12-06 15:04:40 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Oh, yeah, this is another fave of mine. http://tinyurl.com/2cfjllp

2010-12-06 15:05:16 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

In this, Kon talked about story of his Sennen Joyu to Darren. OMG! It inspired Darren's FOUNTAIN! RT @ZERUDAH: http://bit.ly/9pfHJj

2010-12-06 15:11:08 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@tomomachi Actually, I think Darren was a fan of Hi No Tori. Though there were people on his board who thought 'Geisha ripped off SJ.

2010-12-06 15:12:29 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi I had to let them know that the book predated SJ, but even I couldn't deny the similarities. ^_-

2010-12-06 15:14:04 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

U know, his first film was inspired by Shinya Tsukamoto's Tetsuo. He walways cashes in Jap flicks and nailed beautiful Rachel! RT @ZERUDAH:

2010-12-06 15:15:50 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi I think what makes Nolan a bigger dick is Kon listed TDK as one of the films that he and his staff liked and/or talked about.

2010-12-06 15:16:30 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Not a bigger dick than Darren, just a bigger dick than he could be.

2010-12-06 15:16:46 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Darren owes at least part of his career to Kon, though, because if Requiem did not get nominated for an Oscar, he might be a

2010-12-06 15:17:25 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi one-hit wonder with Pi.

2010-12-06 15:17:33 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi No one would give him money for The Fountain or let him do "The Wolverine". Or at least they'd be reluctant.

2010-12-06 15:18:16 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Yeah, he did get The Wrestler off the ground, but that was shot on the cheap, and Swan certainly wouldn't have happened if it

2010-12-06 15:19:41 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi bombed. But once again, he wouldn't get his foot in the door with all this in the first place w/o Requiem. Pi is still a niche

2010-12-06 15:20:25 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi cult hit, after all.

2010-12-06 15:20:44 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi That's why he's pissing me off even more than Nolan. At least most of Nolan's success is his own.

2010-12-06 15:21:22 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

Geisha(さゆり) also stole thunder from 千年女優SJ! Everyone in Hollywood steals from Satoshi Kon! RT @ZERUDAH: http://bit.ly/gfQuIP

2010-12-06 15:21:35 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi To be fair, though, Tokyo Godfathers was inspired by John Ford's Three Godfathers. But Kon didn't pretend otherwise.

2010-12-06 15:22:39 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

I agree. He admitted infuence from The Last Tango In Paris. RT @ZERUDAH: At least most of Nolan's success is his own.

2010-12-06 15:23:20 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi He was the type who loved to blog about what he was watching or reading or listening to on CD. No pretention whatsoever.

2010-12-06 15:23:29 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi I never thought he'd care what a random gaijin fan had to say on his board, but he did occasionally read my posts, too. ;-;

2010-12-06 15:24:24 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

By the way, do you ive in JP? Speak JP? RT @ZERUDAH:

2010-12-06 15:25:25 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@tomomachi BTW, the same company which distributed SJ also produced Geisha. Not sure if that was coincidence or intentional. But instead of

2010-12-06 15:25:29 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@tomomachi promoting it for an Oscar, they bet on House of Sand and Fog. Blowme, Er, Sony thought Triplets of Belleville was worth more than

2010-12-06 15:26:04 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@tomomachi TG. And they dumped Paprika in the ass-end of the awards season when no one would know about it, and at an out-of-the-way theater

2010-12-06 15:26:45 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@tomomachi when they could have easily submitted it for the next year and promoted it with more buzz.

2010-12-06 15:27:13 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi So yeah, Kon's never even been nominated for an American Oscar. Though there was an article which said he was, when they were

2010-12-06 15:27:55 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi probably confusing it for Miyazaki.

2010-12-06 15:28:06 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@Tomomachi Wish that entry on Geisha on his board was still there, but the site got revamped a few years ago, and it got cut off. ;-;

2010-12-06 15:30:36 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

OK, do you write in any magazin or web professionally? RT @ZERUDAH: @TomoMachi Nope and nope.

2010-12-06 15:31:33 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi I think what unnerves me is if he was really as "niche" internationally as Ringo Lam, yeah, I could at least see why they'd think

2010-12-06 15:32:15 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@tomomachi they could steal from him, but there have been other celebrities who liked his stuff.

2010-12-06 15:32:42 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

And do you know Patrick Macias in person? RT @ZERUDAH:

2010-12-06 15:32:49 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@tomomachi Yes and no. I've met him, though I probably don't know him personally enough like others.

2010-12-06 15:33:51 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@tomomachi For example @edgarwright [Shaun of the Dead/Hot Fuzz/Scott Pilgrim] just tweeted me saying he saw PB in '98 and it was great.

2010-12-06 15:35:28 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

ya, I know Edgar. He is really a nice guy. RT @ZERUDAH: @edgarwright just tweeted me saying he saw PB in '98 and it was great.

2010-12-06 15:37:58 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@tomomachi And Frodo from LOTR loves Paprika. http://www.aintitcool.com/no... As does Terry Gilliam

2010-12-06 15:38:37 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@Tomomachi And one of the directors for How To Train Your Dragon. http://articles.latimes.com/...

2010-12-06 15:40:13 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Technically, he took down the part about seeing it when I brought it up in relation to Swan, but he PM'ed me about the "great".

2010-12-06 15:42:00 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi I've been trying to somehow contact Madhouse and get 'em to exploit those quotes for the marketing for Dream Machine.

2010-12-06 15:43:54 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi 'Cus even with his death, I don't see any up-tick in home video sales for his stuff in Japan, which is a damn shame.

2010-12-06 15:44:39 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

I'm kind a sad because I like Aronofsky's movies… Satoshi Kon is dead. He can't fight for his rights! RT @ZERUDAH:

2010-12-06 15:45:50 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Oh, yeah, and the Gantz guy and Ikuhara also had tributes to him in their twitters.

2010-12-06 15:46:21 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Kind of old, but even before Memories, Marvel did an unusual thing with their edition of the Akira manga and included him in

2010-12-06 15:48:44 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@tomomachi You can click on it to make it larger.

2010-12-06 15:49:14 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Of the ones I've seen, I only liked The Wrestler so far, and that has more to do with Rourke, as far as I'm concerned.

2010-12-06 15:50:43 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi I'm glad you liked Swan, even though I thought the story as written by him was bullshit, compared to Kon's take.

2010-12-06 15:51:35 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Of course, by today's internet standards, I'm not sure that PB wouldn't be considered ridiculous.

2010-12-06 15:51:59 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Though the concept of people writing fake celebrity journals is still ahead of its time.

2010-12-06 15:52:22 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Well, Kurosawa won when it involved A Fistful of Dollars vs. Yojimbo, so it's not impossible.

2010-12-06 15:58:40 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi Plus, you did hear about that son of the KISS singer who copied Bleach panels, right?

2010-12-06 15:59:31 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

Anyway, I think we had a nice conv. I wish readers in JP could read these. RT @ZERUDAH:

2010-12-06 16:00:05 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi From what I heard on The Lion King vs. Leo, manga-ka signed a petition asking Di$ney to recognize the latter property.

2010-12-06 16:00:21 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi But Kon did not have the pull of Tezuka or even Kurosawa in Japan, so his family's even more screwed by the situation.

2010-12-06 16:01:32 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@Tomomachi Actually, um, there have been minor comparisons since Leo and Paprika/PB, but not as much interest. For example, people claim

2010-12-06 16:03:03 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@tomomachi Whedon ripped off Sailor Moon/Devil Hunter Yoko for Buffy and Bebop/Outlaw Star for Firefly Serenity.

2010-12-06 16:03:30 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@Tomomachi And Disney was accused of copying Nadia for Atlantis, and for Universal Hellsing for Van Helsing, but again, the original book

2010-12-06 16:04:44 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@Tomomachi argument was used.

2010-12-06 16:04:51 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@TomoMachi I don't know how true it is, but I heard from a Geneon rep that the Hellsing manga-ka was irked that VH used his costumes.

2010-12-06 16:05:17 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

TomoMachi

U know JP have totally tamed by US. JP don't have nuff guts to defy AM. So, Lion King was overlooked. RT @ZERUDAH:

2010-12-06 16:06:18 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@Tomomachi Also, it's an open secret that Disney was copying Miyazaki for years. There was a theory that the only reason they bought his

2010-12-06 16:07:12 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@Tomomachi film library was to bury it here, so no one else would get it.

2010-12-06 16:07:39 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@tomomachi If Spirited Away hadn't won its Oscar, that probably would've happened, 'cus they totally screwed the distribution of his

2010-12-06 16:08:22 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ZERUDAH

@tomomachi stuff so as few people could catch it as possible, and would hold off on DVD releases long after they were on DVD in Japan.

2010-12-06 16:08:52 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

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