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ampgt

@zedshaw (@robconery) you opposed to the wording or the mission? or maybe you're experimenting with a new, personal shallow-first search.

2011-08-01 20:19:50 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt It's a buzzword compliant pile of platitudes and bullshit. I prefer http://t.co/3TtCxKd

2011-08-01 23:10:11 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw "buzzword-compliant" is buzzword-compliant. i'd read your manifesto previously. i find it just an opposite extreme of entitlements.

2011-08-01 23:37:56 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

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ampgt

@zedshaw i'm tired of the prescriptive methodology mindlessness, as well. but if programmers are geeks, then they are very likely autistic.

2011-08-01 23:40:06 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt You mean that old tope of "coders don't communicate so we need to strip their power"? Funny how consultants wanting $$$ say that.

2011-08-01 23:41:26 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw whether or not we're tired of hearing it isn't definitive of any inherent truth

2011-08-01 23:41:32 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw i'm as tired of prescriptive methodologies as i am of programmers' entitlements to be "left alone" that confound coordination

2011-08-01 23:42:56 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

WTF?! "@ampgt i'm tired of the prescriptive methodology mindlessness...but if programmers are geeks, then they are very likely autistic."

2011-08-01 23:43:26 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw i'm no consultant. you can do better research than that.

2011-08-01 23:44:48 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw there's a difference between having "power" stripped and having "dignity" stripped

2011-08-01 23:45:47 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Ok, first off, you're a piece of shit. Don't call me fucking autistic because I can code. It's insulting you fuck jackass.

2011-08-01 23:46:06 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw don't be attached to "power" and it won't become an identity crisis when power inevitably shifts

2011-08-01 23:46:40 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Wow, you're like the perfect example of this kind of guy. Keep talking.

2011-08-01 23:47:46 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw i'm neither calling you autistic, nor calling you autistic because you code

2011-08-01 23:48:10 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Dude, you *just* said that people who code are probably autistic. You're an insulting shitwad despite all your seemingly nice words.

2011-08-01 23:49:06 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw nonetheless, the laser-like focus demanded by programming exacerbates and often cultivates attention dysfunctions

2011-08-01 23:49:42 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw there's a high correlation between most engineering or high-focus work and low-grade autism

2011-08-01 23:51:06 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw and it can be observed in software development culture by programmers' difficulty with things like api and interaction design

2011-08-01 23:51:48 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Haha, you're a tool. You're not only insulting programmers but people with autism. What's next, Down Syndrome?

2011-08-01 23:53:11 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw the inability or unwillingness to constantly shift focal depths to make assessments of beliefs of our work is an attention disorder

2011-08-01 23:53:15 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Holy crap, so because some programmer doesn't want to go to your constantly occurring meetings you think they have a disorder.

2011-08-01 23:54:12 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw i'm not insulting them. i'm quite sympathetic to them. in fact, to "us". your forceful assertion that i am doesn't make it so.

2011-08-01 23:54:26 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw what constantly-occurring meetings? that's just characterization masquerading as debate.

2011-08-01 23:55:21 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Oh, I see, you're one of those guys who says shit and then denies saying it. I'm guessing you also studied NLP? Most assholes do.

2011-08-01 23:55:39 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw have i denied saying what i've said? i'm denying that you understood what i said to begin with.

2011-08-01 23:56:44 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt There's no other meaning to be had from "if programmers are geeks, then they are very likely autistic."

2011-08-01 23:58:18 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw that's fair. and i stand by that statement. "geek" and "autistic" are reasonably synonymous.

2011-08-01 23:59:23 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt The way you guys work is you interfere with coder's ability to focus by having meetings all the time,and say "See! They're autistic!"

2011-08-02 00:00:04 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt What? "geek" and "autistic" are ... synonymous!? Wow, holy shit, you are a perfect example of what I hate.

2011-08-02 00:01:52 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Whew, well I sure hope you're serious. I so want to use this "debate". Please tell me you're for real. PLEASE!?

2011-08-02 00:02:44 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw are attention disorders so loathsome?

2011-08-02 00:05:46 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt NLP tricks again eh? Saying an entire group has a disorder when they don't just so you can gain control is "loathsome".

2011-08-02 00:06:49 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw I don't know what NLP is. it would feel dishonest to speak to it with any authority after a minute on Wikipedia. I'll look later.

2011-08-02 00:11:05 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw but I wouldn't say that the entire group is susceptible, but it's common enough

2011-08-02 00:11:54 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Just shut up. You're embarrassing yourself now. I'm serious, you're like the bigot who's trying to say he's not racist.

2011-08-02 00:14:50 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw how is your force - bordering on repression - not classifiable as the same transgression that you hold yourself above?

2011-08-02 01:19:43 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Ha, what? Are you adding "Freudian Psychologist" to your list of shit you can do? Right after "designer" or "product manager"?

2011-08-02 01:24:13 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw no, not at all. why?

2011-08-02 01:24:36 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw is freudian analysis consistent with my inquiry with you?

2011-08-02 01:25:40 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Haha, you should read some books on NLP so that you get better at this.

2011-08-02 01:34:36 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw get better at what? should I rtfm? would that be the non-autistic's response to holding conflict?

2011-08-02 02:02:02 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Ohhhhhh, you want to resolve conflict? Well, here's a hint, you start with three words: "I am sorry." Then say, "I was wrong."

2011-08-02 02:52:15 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw I accept your apology. that was a pretty cheap shot you leveled this morning. (yes I'm putting words in your mouth. quid pro quo.)

2011-08-02 03:33:53 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Awwww, did I call you on your bullshit and hurt your feelings? Poor baby.

2011-08-02 04:00:05 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw am i wrong in recalling that you took the first shot?

2011-08-02 04:30:29 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw i haven't seen you "call my bullshit" yet. i've seen you malign and characterize, but not really offer much cogent response.

2011-08-02 04:32:12 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw i see that you're opposed to the proposition i offered about geeks and that you're willing to roll around in the dialectic dirt.

2011-08-02 04:32:58 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt You confuse curse words with stupidity. Good, that means you'll miss what everyone else will get.

2011-08-02 06:02:37 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw i don't believe that i confuse curse words with stupidity. i don't think you're stupid. i think you're temperamental.

2011-08-02 06:03:59 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw i think your anger over disrespect paid to programmers has clouded your perspective and narrowed your vision of the whole issue

2011-08-02 06:04:56 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Anger? Shiiiit, I'm very rationally insulting you and what you believe in as just propaganda designed to hurt people you label "geek"

2011-08-02 06:06:00 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw i believe that you've been disrespected to such untenable extremes that you no longer brook any tolerance for critique

2011-08-02 06:06:26 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw but i'm not trying to hurt anyone labeled geek. nor am i hurting anyone who bears that label. that's a presumption of your emotions

2011-08-02 06:07:07 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw but i don't believe that "geek" is a healthy thing. i don't believe that the it's an identity that benefits from indulgence.

2011-08-02 06:09:39 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Well thank you Twitter Psychologist, you have seen into my soul and now I am left crying and debilitated. Thank you! Oh sweet Jesus!

2011-08-02 06:15:57 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw meh. that's just more cooler-than-thou cynicism. not even a conduit for negotiation of meaning. just more malevolence.

2011-08-02 06:17:32 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt What makes you think I'm negotiating with you? A negotiation implies I want something from you, when I don't want shit.

2011-08-02 06:40:45 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw you and i are negotiating meaning. it's impossible that we're not. if this weren't a transaction, you wouldn't be responding.

2011-08-02 06:48:16 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Your mystical insight into why I'm doing anything and who I am is almost as good as your inability to understand "geeks".

2011-08-02 06:51:55 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw well, one of us is misunderstanding; no debate from me there. certainly where "negotiation of meaning" is concerned, anyway.

2011-08-02 06:56:31 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw as for geeks, i stand by my understandings and observations. that they're not popular and elicit strong responses is predictable.

2011-08-02 06:57:32 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Haha, man you're a riot. You'll never admit that you're wrong, so your solution is to badger me until I do? That's totally gonna work

2011-08-02 06:59:45 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw i'm badgering you? i don't think i'd come to the same conclusion looking at our dialog side-by-side.

2011-08-02 07:02:11 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw i'm perfectly willing to admit i'm wrong. i'd be honored to be proven wrong by you. but we're not even on the same page.

2011-08-02 07:03:03 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Actually no, you're more interested in double-speak and manipulation than actual debate, which means you're a piece of shit.

2011-08-02 07:04:48 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw there's no double-speak coming from me. i'll stake my life on it. i'm not manipulating. and i'm certainly not rolling over.

2011-08-02 07:31:15 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw you seem unwilling to even consider a causal or correlative relationship between attention disorders and geeks. ok. i get that.

2011-08-02 07:32:02 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

zedshaw

@ampgt Jesus dude, you're a gigantic fucking asshole. You present no evidence backing your claims but expect me to agree with your insults?

2011-08-02 07:34:44 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw i don't expect you to agree. you may chose to consider the mere possibility, and make you own observations in that light.

2011-08-02 07:38:42 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw going on a hunt? check out the alt.net (renamed to cli_dev) mailing list(s). it's where my reputation was hatched.

2011-08-02 08:48:00 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw here's a couple recent videos of recent talks you can probably attack http://t.co/kbrtCnv, http://t.co/MB5VmA9

2011-08-02 08:49:18 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw if you'd like to speak to some folks who've got nothing but bad things to say about me, i'd be happy to pass on some contact info

2011-08-02 08:50:11 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

ampgt

@zedshaw anything i can do to help you in your quest. you let me know. i'm here for you.

2011-08-02 08:50:33 - 返信元ツイートを取得する

 

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